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		<title>Lex Concurs: It&#8217;s a Great Recession</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Published on May 1, 2009
A pandemic of green shoots, a world infested by signs of hope of recovery, and a big market rally. The FTSE All-World index has risen by 31 per cent since its March low. The VIX index – a gauge of market fear – has more than halved from its year-end high, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Published on May 1, 2009</p>
<p>A pandemic of green shoots, a world infested by signs of hope of recovery, and a big market rally. The FTSE All-World index has risen by 31 per cent since its March low. The VIX index – a gauge of market fear – has more than halved from its year-end high, although it still remains well above pre-crisis levels. Best of all, the interbank lending market is creaking open. The so-called Libor-OIS spread – the premium over expected central bank interest rates that commercial banks charge each other for three-month money – is down to 80 basis points, a quarter of its crisis peak, although still more than treble what Alan Greenspan, for what his opinion is still worth, believes is “normal”.</p>
<p><img style="margin: 6px;" src="http://media.ft.com/cms/02060dec-3679-11de-af40-00144feabdc0.gif" alt="FTSE All-World index" width="210" height="256" align="right" />Investors no longer talk about Great Depression II. Instead, the world merely faces Great Recession I. Immunised by pessimism-beating cheap money and higher government spending, confidence has returned. The risk of a <a class="bodystrong" title="Mexico shuts down to fight swine flu" href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b58601e2-35a2-11de-a997-00144feabdc0.html">swine flu pandemic</a>? A run on face masks, not on markets. Chrysler’s <a class="bodystrong" title="Chrysler files for Chapter 11" href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/76ccd92c-3588-11de-a997-00144feabdc0.html">bankruptcy</a>? At last! For now, there is no such thing as bad news; the optimism is self-fulfilling.</p>
<p>Economic apocalypse deferred, gold prices have dropped. Even a 56 per cent rise in <a class="bodystrong" title="Company failures jump 56%" href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1ea04458-362a-11de-af40-00144feabdc0.html">UK company failures </a> left the London stock market unmoved on Friday. For the first time in almost 20 years there is also more invested in low-yielding US money market funds than in equities. Johnny-come-lately investors could take the market higher still.</p>
<p>Yet this is largely a trading call. Cheap credit and government largesse are palliatives that at some point will be withdrawn. The financial system is not fixed, merely stabilised. Housing markets have not yet touched bottom. Unemployment is rising, as are taxes. Even China can’t save the world by itself, and the chance of an emerging markets crisis, given the withdrawal of cross-border lending, remains high.</p>
<p>More immediately, government bond yields are rising, as are corporate bond spreads. The best of the rally has already passed.</p>
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		<title>America Today as Russia in 1998?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 08:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>alex.foti</dc:creator>
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IS AMERICA THE NEW RUSSIA?
By Martin Wolf, Published: April 14 2009
Is the US Russia? The question seems provocative, if not outrageous. Yet the person asking it is Simon Johnson, former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund and a professor at the Sloan School of Management at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In an article [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://media.ft.com/cms/5c56d82e-291f-11de-bc5e-00144feabdc0.gif" alt="US financial sector" width="468" height="248" /></p>
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<h2>IS AMERICA THE NEW RUSSIA?</h2>
<p>By Martin Wolf, Published: April 14 2009</p></div>
<p>Is the US Russia? The question seems provocative, if not outrageous. Yet the person asking it is Simon Johnson, former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund and a professor at the Sloan School of Management at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In <a class="bodystrong" title="The Quiet Coup - The Atlantic (May 2009)" href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200905/imf-advice" target="_blank">an article in the May issue</a> of the <em>Atlantic Monthly</em>, Prof Johnson compares the hold of the “financial oligarchy” over US policy with that of business elites in emerging countries. Do such comparisons make sense? The answer is Yes, but only up to a point.</p>
<p>“In its depth and suddenness,” argues Prof Johnson, “the US economic and financial crisis is shockingly reminiscent of moments we have recently seen in emerging markets.” The similarity is evident: large inflows of foreign capital; torrid credit growth; excessive leverage; bubbles in asset prices, particularly property; and, finally, asset-price collapses and financial catastrophe.</p>
<p>“But,” adds Prof Johnson, “there’s a deeper and more disturbing similarity: elite business interests – financiers, in the case of the US – played a central role in creating the crisis, making ever-larger gambles, with the implicit backing of the government, until the inevitable collapse.” Moreover, “the great wealth that the financial sector created and concentrated gave bankers enormous political weight.”</p>
<p>Now, argues Prof Johnson, the weight of the financial sector is preventing resolution of the crisis. Banks “do not want to recognise the full extent of their losses, because that would likely expose them as insolvent &#8230; This behaviour is corrosive: unhealthy banks either do not lend (hoarding money to shore up reserves) or they make desperate gambles on high-risk loans and investments that could pay off big, but probably won’t pay off at all. In either case, the economy suffers further, and, as it does, bank assets themselves continue to deteriorate – creating a highly destructive cycle.”</p>
<p>Does such an analysis make sense? This is a question I thought about during my recent three-month stay in New York and visits to Washington, DC, now capital of global finance. It is why Prof Johnson’s analysis is so important.</p>
<p>Unquestionably, we have witnessed a massive rise in the significance of the financial sector. In 2002, the sector generated an astonishing 41 per cent of US domestic corporate profits (see chart). In 2008, US private indebtedness reached 295 per cent of gross domestic product, a record, up from 112 per cent in 1976, while financial sector debt reached 121 per cent of GDP in 2008. Average pay in the sector rose from close to the average for all industries between 1948 and 1982 to 181 per cent of it in 2007.</p>
<p>In recent <a class="bodystrong" title="Wages And Human Capital In The U.S. Financial Industry: 1909-2006 (National Bureau Of Economic Research Working Paper Series)" href="http://www.nber.org/tmp/79301-w14644.pdf" target="_blank">research</a>, Thomas Philippon of New York University’s Stern School of Business and Ariell Reshef of the University of Virginia conclude that the financial sector was a high-skill, high-wage industry between 1909 and 1933. It then went into relative decline until 1980, whereupon it again started to be a high-skill, high-wage sector.* They conclude that the prime cause was deregulation, which “unleashes creativity and innovation and increases demand for skilled workers”.</p>
<p>Deregulation also generates growth of credit, the raw stuff the financial sector creates and on which it feeds. Transmutation of credit into income is why the profitability of the financial system can be illusory. Equally, the expansion of the financial sector will reverse, at least within the US: credit growth and leverage masked low or even non-existent profitability of much activity, which will disappear, and part of the debt must also be liquidated. The golden age of Wall Street is over: the return of <a class="bodystrong" title="Biden calls for regulation caution" href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/11224e38-1c77-11de-977c-00144feabdc0.html" target="_blank">regulation</a> is cause and consequence of this shift.</p>
<p>Yet Prof Johnson makes a stronger point than this. He argues that the refusal of powerful institutions to admit losses – aided and abetted by a government in thrall to the “money-changers” – may make it impossible to escape from the crisis. Moreover, since the US enjoys the privilege of being able to borrow in its own currency it is far easier for it than for mere emerging economies to paper over cracks, turning crisis into long-term economic malaise. So we have witnessed a series of improvisations or “deals” whose underlying aim is to rescue as much of the financial system as possible in as generous a way as policymakers think they can get away with.</p>
<p>I agree with the critique of the policies adopted so far. In the debate on the Financial Times’s <a class="bodystrong" href="http://blogs.ft.com/economistsforum/" target="_blank">economists’ forum</a> on Treasury secretary Tim Geithner’s “public/private investment partnership”, the critics are right: if it works, it is because it is a non-transparent way of transferring taxpayer wealth to banks. But it is unlikely to fill the capital hole that the markets are, at present, ignoring, as Michael Pomerleano <a class="bodystrong" href="http://blogs.ft.com/economistsforum/2009/04/geithner-and-summers-need-to-address-the-banking-problems-square-on/" target="_blank">argues</a>. Nor am I persuaded that the <a class="bodystrong" title="Obama hints at hopes for recovery" href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/10f7fa3e-28f2-11de-bc5e-00144feabdc0.html" target="_blank">“stress tests”</a> of bank capital under way will lead to action that fills the capital hole.</p>
<p>Yet do these weaknesses make the US into Russia? No. In many emerging economies corruption is egregious and overt. In the US, influence comes as much from a system of beliefs as from lobbying (although the latter was not absent). What was good for Wall Street was deemed good for the world. The result was a bipartisan programme of ill-designed deregulation for the US and, given its influence, the world.</p>
<p>Moreover, the belief that Wall Street needs to be preserved largely as it is now is mainly a consequence of fear. The view that large and complex financial institutions are too big to fail may be wrong. But it is easy to understand why intelligent policymakers shrink from testing it. At the same time, politicians fear a public backlash against large infusions of public capital. So, like Japan, the US is caught between the elite’s fear of bankruptcy and the public’s loathing of <a class="bodystrong" title="Congress in no mood for more bank bail-outs" href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d55a910a-0522-11de-8166-000077b07658.html" target="_blank">bail-outs</a>. This is a more complex phenomenon than the “quiet coup” Prof Johnson describes.</p>
<p>Yet decisive restructuring is indeed necessary. This is not because returning the economy to the debt-fuelled growth of recent years is either feasible or desirable. But two things must be achieved: first, the core financial institutions must become credibly solvent; and, second, no profit-seeking private institution can remain too big to fail. That is not capitalism, but socialism. That is one of the points on which the right and the left agree. They are right. Bankruptcy – and so losses for unsecured creditors – must be a part of any durable solution. Without that change, the resolution of this crisis can only be the harbinger of the next.</p>
<p><em>*Wages and Human Capital in the US Financial Industry 1909-2006, January 2009, <a class="bodystrong" title="National Bureau Of Economic Research" href="http://www.nber.org/" target="_blank">www.nber.org</a></em></p>
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		<title>2008-2009 Is Worse than 1929-1930</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[World Economy Falling Faster Than in 1929-1930
By Barry Eichengreen and Kevin O’Rourke.
The parallels between the Great Depression of the 1930s and our current Great Recession have been widely remarked upon. Paul Krugman has compared the fall in US industrial production from its mid-1929 and late-2007 peaks, showing that it has been milder this time. On [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 class="post-title entry-title"><a href="http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/04/world-economy-falling-faster-than-in.html">World Economy Falling Faster Than in 1929-1930</a></h3>
<blockquote><p>By Barry Eichengreen and Kevin O’Rourke.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The parallels between the Great Depression of the 1930s and our current Great Recession have been widely remarked upon. Paul Krugman has compared the fall in US industrial production from its mid-1929 and late-2007 peaks, showing that it has been milder this time. On this basis he refers to the current situation, with characteristic black humour, as only “half a Great Depression.” The “Four Bad Bears” graph comparing the Dow in 1929-30 and S&amp;P 500 in 2008-9 has similarly had wide circulation (Short 2009). It shows the US stock market since late 2007 falling just about as fast as in 1929-30.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Comparing the Great Depression to now for the world, not just the US</span></p>
<p>This and most other commentary contrasting the two episodes compares America then and now. This, however, is a misleading picture. The Great Depression was a global phenomenon. Even if it originated, in some sense, in the US, it was transmitted internationally by trade flows, capital flows and commodity prices. That said, different countries were affected differently. The US is not representative of their experiences.</p>
<p>Our Great Recession is every bit as global, earlier hopes for decoupling in Asia and Europe notwithstanding. Increasingly there is awareness that events have taken an even uglier turn outside the US, with even larger falls in manufacturing production, exports and equity prices.</p>
<p>In fact, when we look globally, as in Figure 1, the decline in industrial production in the last nine months has been at least as severe as in the nine months following the 1929 peak. (All graphs in this column track behaviour after the peaks in world industrial production, which occurred in June 1929 and April 2008.) Here, then, is a first illustration of how the global picture provides a very different and, indeed, more disturbing perspective than the US case considered by Krugman, which as noted earlier shows a smaller decline in manufacturing production now than then.</p>
<p>Figure 1. World Industrial Output, Now vs Then</p>
<p><a href="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig1.gif" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 437px; height: 368px;" src="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig1.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>Source: Eichengreen and O’Rourke (2009).</p>
<p>Similarly, while the fall in US stock market has tracked 1929, global stock markets are falling even faster now than in the Great Depression (Figure 2). Again this is contrary to the impression left by those who, basing their comparison on the US market alone, suggest that the current crash is no more serious than that of 1929-30.</p>
<p>Figure 2. World Stock Markets, Now vs Then</p>
<p><a href="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig2.gif" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 429px; height: 362px;" src="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig2.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>Source: Global Financial Database.</p>
<p>Another area where we are “surpassing” our forbearers is in destroying trade. World trade is falling much faster now than in 1929-30 (Figure 3). This is highly alarming given the prominence attached in the historical literature to trade destruction as a factor compounding the Great Depression.</p>
<p>Figure 3. The Volume of World Trade, Now vs Then</p>
<p><a href="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig3.gif" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 427px; height: 373px;" src="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig3.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>Sources: League of Nations Monthly Bulletin of Statistics, http://www.cpb.nl/eng/research/sector2/data/trademonitor.html</p>
<p>I<span style="font-weight: bold;">t’s a Depression alright</span></p>
<p>To sum up, globally we are tracking or doing even worse than the Great Depression, whether the metric is industrial production, exports or equity valuations. Focusing on the US causes one to minimize this alarming fact. The “Great Recession” label may turn out to be too optimistic. This is a Depression-sized event.</p>
<p>That said, we are only one year into the current crisis, whereas after 1929 the world economy continued to shrink for three successive years. What matters now is that policy makers arrest the decline. We therefore turn to the policy response.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Policy responses: Then and now</span></p>
<p>Figure 4 shows a GDP-weighted average of central bank discount rates for 7 countries. As can be seen, in both crises there was a lag of five or six months before discount rates responded to the passing of the peak, although in the present crisis rates have been cut more rapidly and from a lower level. There is more at work here than simply the difference between George Harrison and Ben Bernanke. The central bank response has differed globally.</p>
<p>Figure 4. Central Bank Discount Rates, Now vs Then (7 country average)</p>
<p><a href="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig4.gif" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 456px; height: 392px;" src="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig4.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>Source: Bernanke and Mihov (2000); Bank of England, ECB, Bank of Japan, St. Louis Fed, National Bank of Poland, Sveriges Riksbank.</p>
<p>Figure 5 shows money supply for a GDP-weighted average of 19 countries accounting for more than half of world GDP in 2004. Clearly, monetary expansion was more rapid in the run-up to the 2008 crisis than during 1925-29, which is a reminder that the stage-setting events were not the same in the two cases. Moreover, the global money supply continued to grow rapidly in 2008, unlike in 1929 when it levelled off and then underwent a catastrophic decline.</p>
<p>Figure 5. Money Supplies, 19 Countries, Now vs Then</p>
<p><a href="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig5.gif" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 427px; height: 358px;" src="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig5.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>Source: Bordo et al. (2001), IMF International Financial Statistics, OECD Monthly Economic Indicators.</p>
<p>Figure 6 is the analogous picture for fiscal policy, in this case for 24 countries. The interwar measure is the fiscal surplus as a percentage of GDP. The current data include the IMF’s World Economic Outlook Update forecasts for 2009 and 2010. As can be seen, fiscal deficits expanded after 1929 but only modestly. Clearly, willingness to run deficits today is considerably greater.</p>
<p>Figure 6. Government Budget Surpluses, Now vs Then</p>
<p><a href="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig6.gif" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 465px; height: 417px;" src="http://voxeu.org/files/image/depression_fig6.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>Source: Bordo et al. (2001), IMF World Economic Outlook, January 2009.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Conclusion</span><br />
To summarize: the world is currently undergoing an economic shock every bit as big as the Great Depression shock of 1929-30. Looking just at the US leads one to overlook how alarming the current situation is even in comparison with 1929-30.</p>
<p>(This article first appeared on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.voxeu.org/">http://www.VoxEU.org</a>.)</p></blockquote>
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